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Re: [seL4] Devel Digest, Vol 13, Issue 10_Bare Metal support for GCC
by da Tyga 22 Jun '15

22 Jun '15

> > > Hi Yuxin, I don't think you need to modify GCC, it is the compiler that you can use to generate required executables. Making changes to it is a massive undertaking. Instead of trying to reinvent stuff that has already been done, you really should read the Genode documentation and download and read the source code referenced by Norman Feske's suggestions. >From my reading of the Genode documents and source code, I would expect that you would find a considerable amount of code that you could you re-purpose for your specific requirements. Cheers, Tyga > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 22:46:40 +0800 > From: Yuxin Ren <ryx(a)gwmail.gwu.edu> > To: Norman Feske <norman.feske(a)genode-labs.com> > Cc: "devel(a)sel4.systems" <devel(a)sel4.systems> > Subject: Re: [seL4] Does sel4 support c++ > Message-ID: > <CAAKbDrcbyh0YV+nHzhziiiXavn-= > P_tW5bS2LUfPzHcBF-iMKg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank you all! > > If modifying the tool chain is the easiest way, I want to try it. > But I definitely want to avoid creating the tool chain from "bare metal". > I still prefer to reuse the existing tool chain like gcc > with minimal modification. > > Could you give me some guidance how to create a custom tool chain, which > part I need to modify? > I am not familiar with gcc. So if I have to modify gcc, where can I get > more information or documentation? > > Thanks a lot!! > Yuxin > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Norman Feske < > norman.feske(a)genode-labs.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > The easiest approach is possibly to create a custom tool chain, and > port > > > the GCC C++ library that way. I know the people behind Genode did some > > > of this (http://genode.org/download/tool-chain) although I'm not sure > > > how much of the C++ standard library they actually support. > > > > more in-depth information about Genode's tool chain are provided by > > Section 7.2 of the documentation [1]. In short, the tool chain is a > > "bare metal" tool chain that does not depend on a C library, yet it > > still supports C++ (including exceptions and runtime type information). > > > > On Genode, the libc and STL (aka stdcxx) can be used optionally whereas > > the STL depends on the libc. The libc is based on FreeBSD's libc. The > > STL is GCC's version. Both libraries are available via Genode's ports > > mechanism. > > > > That said, as both the libc and stdcxx are shared libraries, they cannot > > be used on the seL4 version of Genode as of now. Shared libraries don't > > work on seL4 (at least on x86_32) because the system-call bindings > > cannot be compiled with -fPIC. > > > > [1] http://genode.org/documentation/genode-foundations-15-05.pdf > > > > Best regards > > Norman > > > > -- > > Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske > > Genode Labs > > > > http://www.genode-labs.com ? http://genode.org > > > > Genode Labs GmbH ? Amtsgericht Dresden ? HRB 28424 ? Sitz Dresden > > Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske, Christian Helmuth > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel(a)sel4.systems > > https://sel4.systems/lists/listinfo/devel > > >

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Does sel4 support c++
by Yuxin Ren 20 Jun '15

20 Jun '15

Hi, Can I run C++ programs on sel4? I am not familiar with programming language. I do not know the relationship between the OS and the C++ language. In order to run C++, does the OS need to provide some support or what user level library are needed? Thanks a lot. Yuxin

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Virtualization extensions
by Nick Betteridge 16 Jun '15

16 Jun '15

Hi I'm very interested in working with the virtualization extensions on sel4 - is there any rough timeline for when these will be available. Thanks Nick

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high-availability system should have these software services
by XilongPei(裴喜龙) 15 Jun '15

15 Jun '15

Hi, In general, a high-availability system should have the following software services http://electronicdesign.com/boards/high-availability-rtoss-deliver-five-nine s-reliability : - Heartbeat support for each server and each application. - Event management capability for change notification. - Alarm management for error handling. - Transactions capability for check-pointing and rollback/restart. - Clustering for server management and applications links. - Reliable storage support for RAIDs and for journaling file systems. I want to develop a high-availability system on seL4, can anyone give me some suggestions? QNX has high availability support http://www.qnx.com/developers/docs/6.3.0SP3/neutrino/sys_arch/ham.html , can we learn something from them? Xilong Pei Tongji University 2015/6/11

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[sel4] seL4 on RISC-V is running SOS (Simple Operating System)
by Hesham ALMatary 09 Jun '15

09 Jun '15

Hi all, This is the second status update of the project (Porting seL4 to RISC-V). Please have a look at the blog post [1] for more details, and feel free to ask and/or comment. You feedback would be appreciated. [1] http://heshamelmatary.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/sel4-on-risc-v-is-running-sos-… Thanks, -- Hesham

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Sel4 and Network
by Haselauer Lukas - S1410304006 03 Jun '15

03 Jun '15

Hello, My name is Lukas and I am currently studying in Austria. I am currently using sel4 in a student's project. We are using CAmkES to develop a small application (on the imx6-platform), and some things already work fine :-) But when it comes to networking, we are totally without results. We tried using some of the excisting libraries (libethdrivers + libplatsupport + liblwip) - but without success. My question is: Which way can I go if I want my CAmkES Apps to communicate via ethernet? Do I have to implement a driver as part of the App? As an additional library? Or somewhere else? I really couldn't figure out how to do it properly... Is there some sort of documentation or example on how to get a IP-stack up and running on sel4? Thank you for reading and helping! Lukas

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Hello world - simple example thread creation
by Piotr 31 May '15

31 May '15

I would like to start from scratch - simple thread or process creation helloworld in seL4. I saw there are some examples in "sel4test/app" of seL4 application, but I am looking for something smaller. I have found here on page 39 "Creating a Thread in Own AS and cspace_t" http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cs9242/14/lectures/01-intro.pdf example of thread creation. Unfortunetly I cannot find header file with " cspace_ut_retype_addr" or "ut_alloc". Are they obsolete, any replacements? Are there any small and simple hello-world tutorials or examples avaliable?

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why do there are some differences between camkes branch and master branch in lib seL4/libsel4muslcsys
by Pei.XiLong(裴喜龙) 29 May '15

29 May '15

Hi, Siwei Zhuang, Why do there are some differences between camkes branch and master branch in lib seL4/libsel4muslcsys? The lib seL4/libsel4muslcsys is the foundation of libmuslc, it shoud be a libc for any seL4 program, and there should be no diference among any branches. https://github.com/seL4/libsel4muslcsys/commits/camkes Xilong Pei Tongji University 2015/5/29

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[sel4] Porting seL4 to RISC-V - Status Report 1
by Hesham ALMatary 26 May '15

26 May '15

Hi all, As a warm up, I've written a blog entry [1] of the project giving some introductory details for both RISC-V and seL4 microkernel and what has been done so far. Open to questions/suggestions. [1] http://heshamelmatary.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/porting-sel4-to-risc-v-status-… Thanks, -- Hesham

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Progress of bringing Genode to seL4
by Norman Feske 26 May '15

26 May '15

Hello, I have written up the first of a series of articles about using seL4 as base platform for the Genode OS framework: http://genode.org/documentation/articles/sel4_part_1 I hope that it contains useful bits of information for novices of seL4 and Genode alike. Even though the article outlines a few hurdles, the overall experience of using the kernel had been overly positive so far. For those of you interested in tracking the progress of the ongoing work, here is the corresponding topic branch: https://github.com/nfeske/genode/commits/sel4 Cheers Norman -- Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske Genode Labs http://www.genode-labs.com · http://genode.org Genode Labs GmbH · Amtsgericht Dresden · HRB 28424 · Sitz Dresden Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske, Christian Helmuth

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