November 2018 - Devel - lists.sel4.systems

seL4 test on x86
by Yevgeny Lavrov 29 Jan '25

29 Jan '25

Hello, I'm new to seL4 and I'm just doing it for learning purpose. I'm trying to run seL4 test suite or simple hello world task from seL4 tutorials on the real hardware. So far I had no problems compiling seL4 test suite and running via QEMU for both x32 and x64 platforms. However, when I try to run it on the actual hardware following Running on real hardware tutorial for x86 I end up with no output at all and no error msgs that can give me a clue on where something went wrong. After compiling seL4test for x86, I ended up with two images in sel4_dir/images/ folder. Copied them over to /boot/sel4/ folder and created a new GRUB2 entry that looks like this menuentry “seL4 test suite” --class os { load video insmod gzio insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root=’(hd0,msdos5)’ multiboot /boot/sel4/kernel-ia32-pc99 module /boot/sel4/sel4test-driver-image-ia32-pc99 } update grub, restart and select the new entry from GRUB menu. I end up with blinking cursor on the top-left side of the screen. Please advise.

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Stuck during invalidate local TLB in Tx2
by Muneeswaran Rajendran 15 Oct '24

15 Oct '24

Hi seL4 Dev team, Can someone explain the reason (share the reference) to invalidate the local TLB during kernel vspace activation as part CPU initialisation. The Tx2 board stuck while performing this operation. As per my understanding both Tx1 and Tx2 are using same A57 core. so the TLB initialisation and invalidation remain same for Tx2 and should not stuck during invalidation.Please correct me if anything wrong here. I understand from that instruction (tlbi vmalle1) which is invalidating stage 1 entries associated to the current VMID. Also from arm mmu code the seL4 setting up (TCR_EL1) TCR register addressing space as 48bit, ASID as 16bit and page table setup 4k granular size. I am using MRS macro to dump the spsr_el1 and dspsr_el0 register to see the state of processor but its throwing synchronous exception. Do we have any other option to dump all the register content to see the state of processor like we have one in 'sel4debug_dump_registers' which is used in sel4test code. Regards, Muneeswaran R

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Questions about Memory Management in seL4
by Daniel Wang 18 May '23

18 May '23

Hi all, Sorry to bother, I have some basic questions about seL4 memory management. Can someone help me? 1. where is the kernel’s address space? I know there are basically three methods: a) separate virtual address space, e.g. through changing page tables on entry into privileged mode to access b) physical space, e.g. through disable automatic hardware translation of virtual addresses on entry into privilege mode c) privilege region in each process’s virtual address space, e.g. through page table to map kernel address into use-mode process. My question is which of this is being used by seL4 microkernel? 2. Objects like CSpace, VSpace, CNode, TCB, Endpoint, etc. are called kernel objects, but it seems all dynamically allocated in thread running/creating time. Are those objects (e.g. Figure 3.3 in seL4 manual) in kernel space or in user space? 3. I read that after the kernel boot up, it passes all resources, untyped memory to the first thread. Are those untyped memory physical memory or virtual memory in a single page? The reason I ask is I’m learning the code of the UNSW AOS project (two of the assignment projects are implementing frame and papers). I’m confused that before the implementation of frames and pages what kind of memory is passed to the the first thread? I saw int AOS project, it uses ut_table_init(), ut_steal_mem(), I wonder what kind of memory it operates on? Thanks -Dan

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TLB issue
by Stefan Kalkowski 15 Nov '19

15 Nov '19

Dear sel4 community, yesterday I've started to develop a low-level platform test to stress several multi-processor aspects on top of the Genode API. Thereby, I've recognized that on sel4/x86_64 the TLB is practically not always cleaned properly in SMP systems. The test spawns threads of one protection domain on each available cpu. Each thread accesses one of the first words of a shared dataspace. Afterwards the main thread on CPU 0 detaches and destroys the dataspace. Unfortunately, the threads on other CPUs still successfully access the corresponding memory instead of triggering a fault. To be able to reproduce the problem, you might investigate the simple test case here: https://github.com/skalk/genode/commit/2d2d7f982555f551227ad5dcbf9df46705d7… My colleague Alexander Boettcher already investigated the problem in part, and might share his insights with you. Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Kalkowski Genode labs https://github.com.skalk | https://genode.org

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Poll for Separation Kernel (microkernel) CC Protection Profile
by Holger Blasum 20 Jan '19

20 Jan '19

Hello seL4 devel, microkernel-based systems can be used as separation kernels[*] for security. At the moment there is a poll on input for a Common Criteria for Information Technology Security (CC) separation kernel protection profile draft, organized by a certMILS.eu colleague from Rostock Univ, at https://evasys.uni-rostock.de/evasys/online.php?p=ccuf-sk-wg The idea is to have a base protection profile (PP) that all players can agree with and to specify additional functionality as add-ons to the PP (e.g., in the form of PP modules). The questionnaire is an opportunity to provide early feedback. Note that there are no mandatory questions, i.e. you can freely move around / you can leave any question unanswered - the only condition for your feedback be submitted to the collection system is that you go to the last page and use the submit button there. We invite feedback via that poll by end of this week. If, beyond the questionnaire, you want to join the Common Criteria User's Forum separation kernel working group, or anyone would like to have more time, just let me know by answering to this email. [*] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_Independent_Levels_of_Security Best, -- Holger Blasum, SYSGO

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Network lwip for imx6
by wong xuguo 10 Dec '18

10 Dec '18

Hi, I am a student fron Nanjing university, a fresh man of microkernel, specially, know very little about the seL4. Recently I accept a chellange about porting the lwip to sel4, on arch of imx6, does any one could give me a clue? I found the source of camkes does have this code, could I do something to port, to make the lwip work? What my aim is make a tcp echo server. Thank you for all of you help. Best regards from Xuguo Wang

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sel4 on Raspberry Pi 3b Not Working
by Amit Goyal 06 Dec '18

06 Dec '18

Hi All, I tried running seL4 on Raspberry Pi 3b using the following links: https://research.csiro.au/tsblog/sel4-raspberry-pi-3/ https://docs.sel4.systems/Hardware/Rpi3.html https://inner-haven.net/posts/2017-09-15-sel4-rpi3.html#fnref1 I get the following: CACHE: Misaligned operation at range [20000000, 20000014] CACHE: Misaligned operation at range [20008c80, 200092ef] CACHE: Misaligned operation at range [200192f0, 203bb4f0] CACHE: Misaligned operation at range [203bc000, 203c6030] CACHE: Misaligned operation at range [203c6030, 203c8000] ## Starting application at 0x20000000 … and then nothing works and the processor halts. I have tried the pre-built uboot binary, complied uboot versions v2017.1 and v2016.11 as suggested by steve sloloski (on the blog) and uboot version v2016.05 (out of curiosity) but nothing works. Can someone please suggest a possible way out. -- Thanks and Regards, Amit Goyal

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seL4 cache pinning
by 송대영 02 Dec '18

02 Dec '18

Hi, I read "Improving Interrupt Response Time in a Verifiable Protected Microkernel" paper. This paper improved IPC performance by using cache pinning and I want to know how to implement cache pinnng. But this paper doesn't refer how to manipulate cache lines. Would you give me some methods how to read cache lines and write cache lines?

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sel4bench config problem
by 송대영 23 Nov '18

23 Nov '18

Hi, I have a sel4bench config problem. I use 'ccmake ..' command to configure sel4 configuration but system prints error with this message. Build files have been written to: /home/scribnote5/sel4bench_thesis/build CMake Warning at tools/seL4/cmake-tool/flags.cmake:123 (message): Kernel supports hardware floating point but toolchain does not Call Stack (most recent call first): tools/seL4/cmake-tool/base.cmake:58 (include) tools/seL4/cmake-tool/all.cmake:18 (include) CMakeLists.txt:21 (include) Please help me!

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seL4 stack overflow
by Anna.Lyons＠data61.csiro.au 21 Nov '18

21 Nov '18

Hi everyone, I've created a proposal for an seL4 stack overflow, which will complement the mailing list. Please support it! https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/120611/sel4?referrer=oNjnX5y9POx… Cheers, Anna.

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